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#239412 - 28/10/2004 18:54 How do you say "Mac OS X" ?
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
I've got a conference call with the "Apple Worldwide Developer Relations-Europe, Mac OS X Evangelist" to talk about the possibility of porting one of my applications to Mac OS X.

What I want to know is whether it is "Mac OS ex" or "Mac OS ten"

Thought I'd better show willing by at least getting the name of their OS right...

Wish porting .net and C# to OS X was more advanced, then I wouldn't need another developer involved.
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#239413 - 28/10/2004 19:04 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Ten.

You could always watch a Macworld Expo presentation by Steve Jobs to be sure. I'm sure there are video clips all over the place and I'm sure he says it more than once.


Edited by wfaulk (28/10/2004 19:10)
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#239414 - 28/10/2004 19:06 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
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Loc: Richmond, VA
I've always said 10.

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#239415 - 28/10/2004 19:22 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Yeah, you don't say "Rocky Vee" do you?
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#239416 - 28/10/2004 19:24 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: mschrag]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
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Loc: San Carlos, CA
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I've always said 10.

Really? I've always said ex despite knowing that ten is "correct". Ex seems to have caught on with everyone I know who uses OS X.

-Mike
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#239417 - 28/10/2004 19:31 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: mcomb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Ex seems to have caught on with everyone I know who uses OS X.

And those people probably go around saying "Star Wars Episode Eye Vee", too.

I thought Mac users were supposed to be the intellectuals.
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#239418 - 28/10/2004 19:31 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: mcomb]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Yeah, actually, for some reason I say "oh-ess-echs", but "mac-oh-ess-ten".
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#239419 - 28/10/2004 19:49 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Same as Bitt. I was just about to post this.

Bruno
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#239420 - 28/10/2004 22:10 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
OS ten.
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#239421 - 28/10/2004 23:37 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
peakmop
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Registered: 02/07/2004
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Loc: 384400 km from the Moon
Disclamer: completely ignorant of Mac...
You should say: MacO SeX or Mac 'O SeX.

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#239422 - 29/10/2004 07:28 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Loc: Cambridge, England
I always call it "X", but only because I know it annoys Mac weenies who know it's officially called "ten".

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#239423 - 29/10/2004 08:00 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: peter]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
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Loc: Hants, UK
I have called it "X" because I thought it was deliberately named that way to show that it's completely different to previous versions (ie. Linux based).

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#239424 - 29/10/2004 09:12 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: g_attrill]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Loc: London, UK
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(ie. Linux based).


BSD-based.
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#239425 - 30/10/2004 00:08 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: tfabris]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
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Ex seems to have caught on with everyone I know who uses OS X.

And those people probably go around saying "Star Wars Episode Eye Vee", too.

I thought Mac users were supposed to be the intellectuals.


Hrmm...

Personally I think its a matter of opinion or preference and not tied to intelligence.

For me "Ehks" seemes nice because of the (imagined?) reference to the unix X server.

I don't understand why people spend the time worrying about this sort of thing, actually.
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#239426 - 30/10/2004 05:39 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: webroach]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
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I don't understand why people spend the time worrying about this sort of thing, actually.


Nor do I, but for different reasons. Apple created it, they call it Mac OS Ten. That should be the end of the discussion on what is the right way. Similar to Linux. Linus took his name, put an X in place of the S at the end, and done. So however his mother decided to say it became his name, and the name of his product.

I think most of the problem comes from the fact that the internet is such a print medium instead of a spoken one. So someone sees something once, and they get used to it. Mac OS X, ok, sounds good. Days weeks or months go by, and they hear someone say Ten, so they then just figure it is another possibility. Had the world been introduced to it by TV, the issue would likely not exist.

Continuity is definitly a good thing. It helps avoid issues in the long run, and I see it a lot at work. For example, a product I just got trained on sits in a rack and has an "address bus". It's a setup inside the rack where every device plugs into the address bus boxes, and based on where it is plugged in, the device gets assigned a number. By defauly in the low end configuration, you have disk enclosure 1 and 8. The controllers sit at 7. We always recommend it that way, so that when a disk fails in enclosure one, other people can find it quickly and not have to dig into the system.

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#239427 - 30/10/2004 10:16 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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In the end the "Evangelist" said the word ten in his first sentence anyway...

The outcome of the meeting is that I'll probably be getting a loaner Mac from Apple and learning objective C/Cocoa. Wish me luck
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#239428 - 30/10/2004 14:07 Re: How do you say "Mac OS X" ? [Re: andy]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
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For anyone else looking into a Mac, definitely consider the developer program. It's $500 p/ year, but you get a 20% hardware discount on one purchase. So if you're looking at any machine over $2500, then it pays for itself. Not to mention you'll get a free upgrade to Tiger and it comes with an OS X Server AND Client license and access to a bunch of other early access stuff.

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